>> and figured i beat them on the debt ceiling debate in 2011 and beat them on the fiscal cliff, i can do it again. the polls show that the public will be with me. whether that's well-founded, we'll find out, but i think that's what's driving some of this. he feels as if he can win this. >> you think it may be overconfidence on the part of the president, and this is different than the other two fights that jason mentioned, how so? >> it absolutely is. republicans know that they got beat on the debt ceiling and the fact that they're embracing the strategy. it's a deliberate strategy. they're ready and willing to let this go into effect and think of it. step back and what are we talking about at the moment. what we're the not talking about is republicans lack of unity on taxes, we're talking about spending, we're talking about the size of government. we're talking about the president's addiction to spending, we're talking about priorities, this is exactly where the republicans want this to be. >> but could they split over defense spending, kim, where a lot of their members don't want the